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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Jan 16, 2013 10:41pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Total Dead End (TLH-related)

OK, so I'm trying to do this convert-to-iTunes thing, and here's what happens. This is more or less a step-by-side, in case someone can tell me where I'm going wrong.

First, I click on the cute little TLH toolbox icon on my desktop.

It pulls up ... well, nothing much, actually. A grey box, with stuff in the banner on the top (Format, Checksum, etc).

I think: Is this normal? Do I have to say some magic words?
Since none come to me and it stays blank, I click on FORMAT and then click on CONVERT ENCODING FORMAT because somebody used those words in the other thread.

OK, a little box comes up. Along the side it says ADD. I click on it. (I'm feeling like Alice with the DRINK THIS signs by this point.) It gives me a list of stuff, none of which seem to be where the torrent files landed.

So I click around within that dropdown menu and find one torrent files, gd69-2-28kaplan (or something like that), and I think, maybe click OPEN? No, that doesn't do anything.

OK, that seems to be a dead end.

Geez, I can't even find what I'd done earlier. Somehow I'd clicked around and it seemed to convert, but I have no clue where it landed, and neither does iTunes. I try various internal search terms, but can't find anything. At least Alice found a white rabbit and a hookah-smoking caterpillar. She did way better than me.

I seem to be missing something obvious here ...

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Poster: Tidewater four ten O nine Date: Jan 17, 2013 12:15am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Total Dead End (TLH-related)

Best guess:-

2 things - you need to specify whether you want to encode or decode and then you have to add the files you want to process.

If you've already d/l'd FLAC files, these are coded, so you need to decode them and so click on "Format" in the top left corner and select the "Decode" option.

Alternatively, if you had WAV files, you'd want to encode them and so you'd click on "Format" and select "Encode WAVE files" or words to that effect.

Once you've told it what you want to do, now start thinking about what you want it to do it to:

On the right hand side there's the "Add" button, click on this and then browse through your computer files until you find the (FLAC) files you want to decode. Select them one by one or 'en bloc' as you would when selecting any other files you would want to delete/move/whatever.

N.B. You can't code files that have already been coded (or at least not with the version I use, maybe later ones can) and you can't encode files that have already been encoded i.e. if you are looking to decode FLAC files but click on "Encode" by mistake, the folder you want to decode will come up empty (even though it contains the encoded files) 'cos there are no files eligible for decoding.

Now click on the "Decode" button, sit back, pour yourself a stiff one and let the machine do the work.

There are other options (e.g. you can designate different folders for the decoded/encoded files to be placed in, or you can select the "Delete Source Files" option [careful!]) but that's for another day.

If you get past the above, you should have some nice WAVE files to burn to CD or then encode (following the above but slecting the appropriate options) to mp3 for transferring to your mp3 player.

Good luck / Keep on Truckin'

P.S. Alternatively, you can locate the files you want to process (decode/encode), select them, right click and then (from the available options) select decode/code whatever. Then use your common sense. But this only works for a modest number of files (approx. 10) - no good for a 30 song Dead show - at least in one go, you'd need to split it into smaller batches.



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Poster: cosmicharIie Date: Jan 17, 2013 9:10am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Total Dead End (TLH-related)

concerning TLH...first VERIFY your flac files by right-clicking the MD5 file and then click "Traders Little Helper" and then click "Verify". This simply verifies that the files are not corrupt.

On decoding flac files to wav files...

Right click a flac file and choose "Traders Little Helper"
then on the grey box that comes up and the "Action to perform" Box, check "Decode Audio Files"

then to add the rest of the flac files, you click "Add" and add the rest.
(I just hold down the left clicker and highlight/add the rest) - then click "Open" and then "Decode"

The only other thing I have checked in the box is in "Output Location" >> I use "Same directory as Source Files"

There are shortcuts and stuff, but my above explaination is basic. When I first got TLH the grey box had me puzzled until I poked around to figure it out. It's a breeze now! But thats only because I use TLH to verify and decode flac/shn to wav

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jan 17, 2013 9:19am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Rose, Read E above...this will do it.

Chuck outlines this in simple terms, and it is precisely what I used to do (fr memory), so see if you can follow his directions.

Worst/worst case: when/if you come back to the states, call one of us you are in email contact with since we could walk you thru it in five min?! Depressing, I know, but if you mastered torrenting (I have NOT), you CAN do this...

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Poster: user unknown Date: Jan 17, 2013 11:58am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Rose, Read E above...this will do it.

"I know, but if you mastered torrenting (I have NOT), you CAN do this."

Fair lady, Sir William speaks the truth(this time).

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Jan 17, 2013 8:25pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: But then what?

OK, but then what?

So it's in the little gray box, and the process log has all the (I guess) evidence of decoding in it. But does it just sit there? Do I just X out? It seems to vanish then. Do I put it somewhere? How? It doesn't seem to automatically, magically make it loadable into iTunes, cuz when I try to load the files that I've theoretically decoded, they don't load.

Either way, iTunes can't find or load it.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jan 17, 2013 9:44pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: But then what?

Go to the folder from which you uploaded the files for decoding by TLH.

IN that folder there will now be a set of songs in the new, decoded format: if you started with FLACs, you'll see identical files but with WAV at the "end".

Thus, having told TLH to decode, if you did indeed execute that command, it will have finished, right? You think or know that happened, right?

If it did, it should have placed each decoded song in the same folder from which you uploaded them into TLH. Go to that folder, and grab all of these and move them to a new folder, labeled "wav files Tell helped me make" and when you open itunes and ask it to upload a folder, you can find it on your desktop where you created it (and placed all the decoded files).

You can then tell itunes to convert to MP3, to make them smaller, or if you followed JH suggestions, it can be done by TLH to start...

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Jan 17, 2013 10:02pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: But then what?

Omigosh. It seems to have kinda worked.

I did that with the first one. I now appear to have something called "unknown folder" in my iTunes now, which has a mish-mash of tracks, some labeled things like gd69-2-27d2t05, totally out of order, and mushed in with GD things labeled differently (01d2t05 etc) but god knows how or when I got them there cuz if they're Fillmore West, Truckin was written way earlier than we'd thought.

OoooKAY. So then, Steps Gazillion, Gazillion and One, etc must be "order tracks, name tracks, rename folder, figure out what the bleep else is in there, and do the same with other files (convert to wav, try to send to iTunes, rename, etc.)" That I can manage ... probably. I think. I hope.

Remind me again why this is easier than Maxell tapes ...

(But seriously, thanks for taking the time. I think the instructions are clear. The process, well, not so much :-) )




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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Jan 17, 2013 10:22pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: But then what? > Comedy Gold

I can somehow see a time warp SNL skit w/Gilda Radner and Dan Aykroyd.

And a tip of the hat for WT!

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Jan 17, 2013 10:50pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: But then what? > Comedy Gold

Next up: He can teach Brent to play St Stephen.

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Poster: cosmicharIie Date: Jan 18, 2013 5:30am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: But then what? > Comedy Gold

make sure your utorrent settings are correct...
In utorrent, click "Options" and then "Directories"

My flac files go to my PC download directory and then when the torrent is finished leeching, it goes ("Moving") to a folder I named "utorrent" (in my external HD).
I know nothing about configuring low bit rate-itunes, but in my utorrent folder, all the shows are configured (by right clicking) by "Type" which usually turns out to be by date. gd69xxx - gd70xxx etc

There are also the files that are not finished, labeled at the end - .iut - more on those later.
Lots of times, to quickly access a torrent folder, I'll just right click the torrent in the utorrent app and choose "Open Containing Folder"

then I do the TLH thang

Btw, I use a Laptop w/Mouse that has both clickers and a scrolling-wheel. I do NOT know how some can navigate with a touch pad!! For me, right-clicking is a time saver and a must.

Ms Rose, if you wish some shows by mail (by memory stick with wav files) I'm sending a batch to Okinawa, I can also include Tibet. Check your PM box at Facebook (I'm EB)
This post was modified by cosmicharIie on 2013-01-18 13:08:56

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Jan 18, 2013 6:57am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: But then what? > Comedy Gold

Hoo boy. I don't think I understand any of that except "check your PM box at Facebook." So I thought, huh, maybe Cosmic is a clever detective and/or got my Non-IA Name from someone else here, cuz I don't think we've emailed ...

Out of curiosity, though, I googled on FB and there seems to be someone there with my IA name -- one Althea Roses from Grateful Dead University -- who will probably happily take shows, too, if that's who you PM'd!!!

Gee, and I thought I was unique :-)



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Poster: cosmicharIie Date: Jan 18, 2013 7:28am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: But then what? > Comedy Gold

could be...she lists 4/20/83 as her b-day...lol. I'll send her some shows too! :)

crap! FB lists 24 of you'z!!

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Jan 18, 2013 7:12am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: But then what? > Comedy Gold

Oh, that's funny. They can all come on here and we'll have a War of the Roses.

Got the email. Thanks!

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jan 18, 2013 9:59am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: But then what? > Comedy Gold

Good to read that you are getting somewhere--though I expected more "ah ha!!!" sentiment to be ooozing thru the ether space...? ;)

Maybe that'll come to you later.

Nonetheless, per our previous exchange...? Be careful--Dan will assume I only did this to get a prom date; so don't be surprised if someone scrutinizes our ether(eral) relationship. If I get to play Dan A. to your Gilda R., though, it'll be worth it (better than Belushi).

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Poster: Tidewater four ten O nine Date: Jan 17, 2013 1:24am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Total Dead End (TLH-related)

1) Format - select "Decode Audio Files".

2) Add Files - browse your computer files and select your FLACs.

3) Decode - click on decode.

Simple as 1, 2, 3, ....... then 'larff' all the way to the (Grateful Dead) bank ...........

Then, when you've cracked this one, we'll talk about DVDs !!!!!!

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Jan 17, 2013 12:16am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Total Dead End (TLH-related)

Sigh. This is complicated. And my brain does not work in the cold. Your tech stuff probably works because your brain works because it's warm in Thailand.

I want to go to Thailand. Or Goa. Even if my brain didn't work in Goa, it would be OK, cuz I wouldn't need it. I'd be in Goa.



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Poster: deadpolitics Date: Jan 18, 2013 8:47am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Total Dead End (TLH-related)

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